What The F Is Wrong With Connor McCaffery?

[Fryowa]

Insiders have told me Connor made his biggest mistake by not sticking with baseball.

Perhaps this is consistent with posters claiming he wants to ride off the success of others. In baseball he would have started at the bottom and been forced to prove himself on his own.

CM's biggest mistake is he thinks he's important. He thinks he matters.

He doesn't, and it seems like there's only a few other people who don't understand that.

 

[Northside Hawk]

As far as college sports goes, my allegiance is to the Iowa programs, not individuals. If someone later chooses to shit on the program (I'm sorry but in my opinion this silence is a really loud statement), they're going to get no love from me. Same goes for the Fant family, others. I don't think she should literally eat shit, she can metaphorically eat shit. It's my way of showing that I don't have to be a fan just because she scored a whole bunch of points and made a ton of assists and sold out Carver. Like I said, the athletic dept is bigger than any player and the wave she created in WBB isn't going to last if the past couple years are any indication. She owes me nothing and I owe her nothing.

You can interpret as her "staying out of it," I interpret it as her choosing the entitled douchey boyfriend over Iowa sports. I care way more about Iowa sports than I do about CM, so that's all it is. She's free to choose anything she wants and if it makes her happier, then good on her. But I ain't gonna choose be a fan of hers. No hard feelings, just indifference. I know my post didn't sound indifferent, I'll give you that. That's a sports board for you.

CC situation is a little like Fredo when Michael tells him never to go against the family or he's going to be out of said family. Without all the dead strippers and blackmail, of course.

Bottom line, I'm a guy who thinks if you ain't for us you're against us. And I don't hate Caitlin Clark. I'm just a dude on the internet who likes the Hawkeyes and I'd shit talk anyone who did the same thing. Caitlin Clark will be just fine for life no matter what I think about her.

Not sure if I buy the "silence is apathy" angle. I think she has enough on her plate just being Caitlin Clark.

I will say this however. What has she ever won championship wise on any level? I called her on some Facebook poll a while back "the most overrated athlete in American sports". She has set or will set records for turnovers that probably will never be broken.. she's basically a female Pete Maravich.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Not sure if I buy the "silence is apathy" angle. I think she has enough on her plate just being Caitlin Clark.

I will say this however. What has she ever won championship wise on any level? I called her on some Facebook poll a while back "the most overrated athlete in American sports". She has set or will set records for turnovers that probably will never be broken.. she's basically a female Pete Maravich.

What is wrong with you?

 

[guffus]

Not sure if I buy the "silence is apathy" angle. I think she has enough on her plate just being Caitlin Clark.

I will say this however. What has she ever won championship wise on any level? I called her on some Facebook poll a while back "the most overrated athlete in American sports". She has set or will set records for turnovers that probably will never be broken.. she's basically a female Pete Maravich.

So you're the dumb troll that posts all the stupid comments on Facebook.

Caitlin and her team won the Big Ten tourney championship 3 years in a row. She won her regional in the NCAA tourney 2 years in a row. She won gold at the 2017 FIBA Americas U16 Championship, and the 2019 and 2021 FIBA U19 World Cups.

You can Google all of this in like 5 seconds.

 

[Northside Hawk]

What is wrong with you?

So you're the dumb troll that posts all the stupid comments on Facebook.

Caitlin and her team won the Big Ten tourney championship 3 years in a row. She won her regional in the NCAA tourney 2 years in a row. She won gold at the 2017 FIBA Americas U16 Championship, and the 2019 and 2021 FIBA U19 World Cups.

You can Google all of this in like 5 seconds.

Oh lordy, if only I remembered what today was.



I still think she's a female Pete Maravich however.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

Oh lordy, if only I remembered what today was.



I still think she's a female Pete Maravich however.

Good one. Looks like you reeled a couple in.

Agree on Maravich. I posted that comparison early in her Hawkeye career.

 

[ForeverHawk]

Be different if he wasn't such a salty asshole. And do you really think he's getting that job with the Pacers and Butler if Fran isn't his dad? Come on.

I'm no shining star by anyone's measure, but I've had a job since two months after I turned 14 and I'm 45. Never not been employed that entire time. My last two years of college I worked 40 hours a week as a welder (learn a trade in high school, smartest thing I ever did). I'm a low talent dork and even I could do that so let's not go that route. He's an above average basketball player, but what else has the guy done that wasn't handed to him? Go to college? People do that every year and have to work to pay for it. Are we acting like he sacrificed 5 years of his life to play basketball here? He got paid for that. Everything he has and the only reason people hear his name is because of his millionaire dad and millionaire girlfriend and he still acts like an asshole.

Just don't be a dickhead, it's simple. Cooper DeJean is one of the nicest and most humble kids I've ever met and grew up just like most rural kids. Still texts in a Snapchat group to this day that my kid is in (we're in the same area of the state as OABCIG and they played sports against each other). Connor had things easy and he's still a douche canoe. Maybe Marge and Fran should've pulled the tit away a little more when he was a kid, I don't know.

Nah. I ain't giving any credit.

You can, I'm not.

The difference between Cooper and Connor is the fan base didn’t ride Coop and his family like Seabiscut during his entire time at Iowa. Now the fan base who by and large treated Connor like a piece of crap want him to kiss their rings. I’m not defending Connor but seriously. The entire fan base needs to put it in perspective.

 

[CP87]

Not sure if I buy the "silence is apathy" angle. I think she has enough on her plate just being Caitlin Clark.

I will say this however. What has she ever won championship wise on any level? I called her on some Facebook poll a while back "the most overrated athlete in American sports". She has set or will set records for turnovers that probably will never be broken.. she's basically a female Pete Maravich.

She has won 3 B1G tournament championships, and they don't just give those away.

Her overall tournament record was 25-5...12-1 in B1G Tournament and 13-4 in NCAA Tournament. That is a lot of winning.

In her junior year, she helped knock off the #1 overall seed (undefeated SC) in the semis, putting up a 41 pt, 8 asst, 6 reb line (also 8 TOs). To put that into context, this was in the midst of an 86 game span where SC went 85-1...their one loss was to Iowa.

They lost to an LSU team that shot out of their asses (11 3FGs at 65%, after averaging 5.2 3FGs at 35%). A player off the bench shot 7/8 (5/6 from 3FG) and scored 22 points (averaged 8.8 on 42%/35% shooting). Iowa had to pack it in to slow down LSU's inside game and hope they didn't catch fire...we played the averages and lost.

Her senior year they went all the way to the finals again, avenging the loss to LSU and taking out UCONN along the way. They ultimately got taken out by SC (finished the season 38-0).

In the B1G tournament, Clark averaged 25.2 pts, 8.6 asst, 7.1 reb, and 5 TOs on 41/33/87 shooting.

For the NCAA tournament, Clark averaged 28.9 pts, 8.9 asst, 6.1 reb. She holds the NCAA tournament record for points in a career, points in a single tournament (191, averaging 31..8 pts/gm) 3FG in a career, 3 FG in a single tournament, assists in a career, and 40-point games (3x, no one else has more than 1).

Sometimes people act like she is putting up empty stats...she made Iowa the 2nd best team in the nation two years in a row. We had never sniffed those heights before. We came up a game short each time, one because a team shot way above their averages, and another because we ran into a dynastic buzzsaw.

If you are going to ding her for no NCAA ring, then be sure you also ding:
Jerry West
Oscar Robertson
Julius Erving
Elgin Baylor
Wilt Chamberlain
Hakeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing
Shaq
David Robinson
Steph Curry
Tim Duncan
Kevin Durant
Charles Barkley
...to name a few

As for her pro career, she has basically played one season, was named WNBA All-Pro, and led her team to the playoffs.

You might be right that she is the most overrated because some have put her on such a ridiculous pedestal. But I don't think Maravich is a good comp considering his team was basically 0.500 his soph and junior years (missing the 25-team tournament both years), and was 22-10 his senior year (2-2 in the NIT). Clark contributes enormously to winning teams, and I suspect she will continue to do so and rack up some WNBA titles (health permitting).

 

[Seth53]

She has won 3 B1G tournament championships, and they don't just give those away.

Her overall tournament record was 25-5...12-1 in B1G Tournament and 13-4 in NCAA Tournament. That is a lot of winning.

In her junior year, she helped knock off the #1 overall seed (undefeated SC) in the semis, putting up a 41 pt, 8 asst, 6 reb line (also 8 TOs). To put that into context, this was in the midst of an 86 game span where SC went 85-1...their one loss was to Iowa.

They lost to an LSU team that shot out of their asses (11 3FGs at 65%, after averaging 5.2 3FGs at 35%). A player off the bench shot 7/8 (5/6 from 3FG) and scored 22 points (averaged 8.8 on 42%/35% shooting). Iowa had to pack it in to slow down LSU's inside game and hope they didn't catch fire...we played the averages and lost.

Her senior year they went all the way to the finals again, avenging the loss to LSU and taking out UCONN along the way. They ultimately got taken out by SC (finished the season 38-0).

In the B1G tournament, Clark averaged 25.2 pts, 8.6 asst, 7.1 reb, and 5 TOs on 41/33/87 shooting.

For the NCAA tournament, Clark averaged 28.9 pts, 8.9 asst, 6.1 reb. She holds the NCAA tournament record for points in a career, points in a single tournament (191, averaging 31..8 pts/gm) 3FG in a career, 3 FG in a single tournament, assists in a career, and 40-point games (3x, no one else has more than 1).

Sometimes people act like she is putting up empty stats...she made Iowa the 2nd best team in the nation two years in a row. We had never sniffed those heights before. We came up a game short each time, one because a team shot way above their averages, and another because we ran into a dynastic buzzsaw.

If you are going to ding her for no NCAA ring, then be sure you also ding:
Jerry West
Oscar Robertson
Julius Erving
Elgin Baylor
Wilt Chamberlain
Hakeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing
Shaq
David Robinson
Steph Curry
Tim Duncan
Kevin Durant
Charles Barkley
...to name a few

As for her pro career, she has basically played one season, was named WNBA All-Pro, and led her team to the playoffs.

You might be right that she is the most overrated because some have put her on such a ridiculous pedestal. But I don't think Maravich is a good comp considering his team was basically 0.500 his soph and junior years (missing the 25-team tournament both years), and was 22-10 his senior year (2-2 in the NIT). Clark contributes enormously to winning teams, and I suspect she will continue to do so and rack up some WNBA titles (health permitting).

Time to reel this one in Northside....

 

[trj]

She has won 3 B1G tournament championships, and they don't just give those away.

Her overall tournament record was 25-5...12-1 in B1G Tournament and 13-4 in NCAA Tournament. That is a lot of winning.

In her junior year, she helped knock off the #1 overall seed (undefeated SC) in the semis, putting up a 41 pt, 8 asst, 6 reb line (also 8 TOs). To put that into context, this was in the midst of an 86 game span where SC went 85-1...their one loss was to Iowa.

They lost to an LSU team that shot out of their asses (11 3FGs at 65%, after averaging 5.2 3FGs at 35%). A player off the bench shot 7/8 (5/6 from 3FG) and scored 22 points (averaged 8.8 on 42%/35% shooting). Iowa had to pack it in to slow down LSU's inside game and hope they didn't catch fire...we played the averages and lost.

Her senior year they went all the way to the finals again, avenging the loss to LSU and taking out UCONN along the way. They ultimately got taken out by SC (finished the season 38-0).

In the B1G tournament, Clark averaged 25.2 pts, 8.6 asst, 7.1 reb, and 5 TOs on 41/33/87 shooting.

For the NCAA tournament, Clark averaged 28.9 pts, 8.9 asst, 6.1 reb. She holds the NCAA tournament record for points in a career, points in a single tournament (191, averaging 31..8 pts/gm) 3FG in a career, 3 FG in a single tournament, assists in a career, and 40-point games (3x, no one else has more than 1).

Sometimes people act like she is putting up empty stats...she made Iowa the 2nd best team in the nation two years in a row. We had never sniffed those heights before. We came up a game short each time, one because a team shot way above their averages, and another because we ran into a dynastic buzzsaw.

If you are going to ding her for no NCAA ring, then be sure you also ding:
Jerry West
Oscar Robertson
Julius Erving
Elgin Baylor
Wilt Chamberlain
Hakeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing
Shaq
David Robinson
Steph Curry
Tim Duncan
Kevin Durant
Charles Barkley
...to name a few

As for her pro career, she has basically played one season, was named WNBA All-Pro, and led her team to the playoffs.

You might be right that she is the most overrated because some have put her on such a ridiculous pedestal. But I don't think Maravich is a good comp considering his team was basically 0.500 his soph and junior years (missing the 25-team tournament both years), and was 22-10 his senior year (2-2 in the NIT). Clark contributes enormously to winning teams, and I suspect she will continue to do so and rack up some WNBA titles (health permitting).

The “she has never won a championship” narrative is out there. It is a lazy argument, but it is out there. Other than the Maravich comp, Northside was clowning around. He knows it is a lazy argument, and just f*cking with people on April Fools Day.

IMO, the comp has always been Steph Curry.

 

[CP87]

The “she has never won a championship” narrative is out there. It is a lazy argument, but it is out there. Other than the Maravich comp, Northside was clowning around. He knows it is a lazy argument, and just f*cking with people on April Fools Day.

IMO, the comp has always been Steph Curry.

Jerry West and Oscar Robertson are also pretty good comps.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

The difference between Cooper and Connor is the fan base didn’t ride Coop and his family like Seabiscut during his entire time at Iowa. Now the fan base who by and large treated Connor like a piece of crap want him to kiss their rings. I’m not defending Connor but seriously. The entire fan base needs to put it in perspective.

That's the difference? FFS, man.

 

[guffus]

All this Conner hate seems a little over the top, in my opinion. If you did not know all this inside info, he has really not said anything publicly, right? Maybe you should just leave it alone.

 

[Northside Hawk]

She has won 3 B1G tournament championships, and they don't just give those away.

Her overall tournament record was 25-5...12-1 in B1G Tournament and 13-4 in NCAA Tournament. That is a lot of winning.

In her junior year, she helped knock off the #1 overall seed (undefeated SC) in the semis, putting up a 41 pt, 8 asst, 6 reb line (also 8 TOs). To put that into context, this was in the midst of an 86 game span where SC went 85-1...their one loss was to Iowa.

They lost to an LSU team that shot out of their asses (11 3FGs at 65%, after averaging 5.2 3FGs at 35%). A player off the bench shot 7/8 (5/6 from 3FG) and scored 22 points (averaged 8.8 on 42%/35% shooting). Iowa had to pack it in to slow down LSU's inside game and hope they didn't catch fire...we played the averages and lost.

Her senior year they went all the way to the finals again, avenging the loss to LSU and taking out UCONN along the way. They ultimately got taken out by SC (finished the season 38-0).

In the B1G tournament, Clark averaged 25.2 pts, 8.6 asst, 7.1 reb, and 5 TOs on 41/33/87 shooting.

For the NCAA tournament, Clark averaged 28.9 pts, 8.9 asst, 6.1 reb. She holds the NCAA tournament record for points in a career, points in a single tournament (191, averaging 31..8 pts/gm) 3FG in a career, 3 FG in a single tournament, assists in a career, and 40-point games (3x, no one else has more than 1).

Sometimes people act like she is putting up empty stats...she made Iowa the 2nd best team in the nation two years in a row. We had never sniffed those heights before. We came up a game short each time, one because a team shot way above their averages, and another because we ran into a dynastic buzzsaw.

If you are going to ding her for no NCAA ring, then be sure you also ding:
Jerry West
Oscar Robertson
Julius Erving
Elgin Baylor
Wilt Chamberlain
Hakeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing
Shaq
David Robinson
Steph Curry
Tim Duncan
Kevin Durant
Charles Barkley
...to name a few

As for her pro career, she has basically played one season, was named WNBA All-Pro, and led her team to the playoffs.

You might be right that she is the most overrated because some have put her on such a ridiculous pedestal. But I don't think Maravich is a good comp considering his team was basically 0.500 his soph and junior years (missing the 25-team tournament both years), and was 22-10 his senior year (2-2 in the NIT). Clark contributes enormously to winning teams, and I suspect she will continue to do so and rack up some WNBA titles (health permitting).

Well for starters, Oscar Robertson and Patrick Ewing have won NCAA rings.

As for the Maravich comp, Pete was an exciting player with in the gym range, great court vision, and a flair for the spectacular. That's where I make the CC comp.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Time to reel this one in Northside....

Still feel confident that the Iowa men were an NIT team?

Forget about reeling that one in, you never should have cast it in the first place. Then you come out with some statement about how "opinions make the world go round".

You're not living that one down any time soon. Aren't my opinions, even in the context of an annual joke holiday, what make the world go round as well? Or am I not allowed to rebuff?

 

[Seth53]

Still feel confident that the Iowa men were an NIT team?

Forget about reeling that one in, you never should have cast it in the first place. Then you come out with some statement about how "opinions make the world go round".

You're not living that one down any time soon. Aren't my opinions, even in the context of an annual joke holiday, what make the world go round as well? Or am I not allowed to rebuff?

What I meant Mr. North is that people are mistaking your CC post as being 100% serious.
"Reeling it in" simply meant you have another fish on the hook.
It was a compliment.

Yes, yes, I had a moment of unclarity by associating Iowa with NIT. My error.

 

[Northside Hawk]

What I meant Mr. North is that people are mistaking your CC post as being 100% serious.
"Reeling it in" simply meant you have another fish on the hook.
It was a compliment.

Yes, yes, I had a moment of unclarity by associating Iowa with NIT. My error.

OK I gotcha. When you said reel it in I thought you meant walk it back.

It's all good

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

Well for starters, Oscar Robertson and Patrick Ewing have won NCAA rings.

As for the Maravich comp, Pete was an exciting player with in the gym range, great court vision, and a flair for the spectacular. That's where I make the CC comp.

Couldn't agree more.

This is what I posted February, 2023:

"I've never been one to follow women's basketball closely but I have to admit Caitlin Clark has really grabbed my attention (I'm sure I'm not alone in that respect), and I now find myself actively seeking out the games to watch. Consider me a new fan of the women's game.

In regards to Caitlin, I kept going back and forth in my mind who she reminds me of, and then it hit me - Pistol Pete Maravich.

For those of us old enough to remember, Maravich routinely dazzled everyone with his ball-handling, range and passing. He had a certain flair with his style of play, as does Caitlin. I don't know if that comparison has been discussed. If so, I definitely agree."

 

[Zstatman]

I suppose I'm not the only one who wonders how the CC/CMac relationship endures, they must really love each other.

I really doubt CC is supportive of all of CMac's rebukes of all things Hawkeye.

I didn't see it, but my wife told me TV showed a bit last night in the Final Four of CC sitting in a luxury box with Magic Johnson, don't know who else was there. How must it be to be basically a nobody and have your girlfriend hobnobbing with the rich and famous, making millions and he's supposed to be nothing but supportive.

Have any of you seen the fake AI stuff about CMac being hired as an assistant at Iowa? Wouldn't that be something!

go hawks

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

All this Conner hate seems a little over the top, in my opinion. If you did not know all this inside info, he has really not said anything publicly, right? Maybe you should just leave it alone.

He's made tons of nasty tweets that he deletes after a few hours. Pretty public declarations for his distaste for Iowa.