tm3308
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If you don't understand that people need a few days to vent after a loss like that, then you can't be helped.
What is wrong with you?
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If you don't understand that people need a few days to vent after a loss like that, then you can't be helped.
Then I expect you give the players and coaches that time as well. To heck with working on things or planning for this coming Saturday, lets all just wallow in or own pity party.
Funny how you expect 18-20 year old kids to man up, while adult fans get to "vent". OR you could fly your Hawk flags high, wear Hawk gear everyday this week, if anybody tries to get under your skin, buck up and just say, it was a good game and we will get them next year, go to this Saturdays game, be louder than you ever have before, and just all around show some support. If we as fans cant do that, who are we to expect the coaches and players to do it?
I can see both sides to the arguement. I also believe that KF should have tried to get into field goal range or even a touchdown, just try. BUT, he played for OT which you cant blame either. If Iowa would have turned the ball over on their own side of the field then Iowa may have not even made it to OT. He made the conservative call. If it was the right call is purely ones own personal opinion.
scourt
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I understand the "venting" process. I did that immediately following the game. To keep replaying it doesn't do anyone any good. If you can't understand that now, you will in a few years, when you get a little more life experience under your belt.
twinhawkfans
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Venting is understandable. To call a HC and his staff that has led the Hawks to 9 straight bowl games gutless and quitters is the dumbest and most pathetic thing that i have ever heard. Save and remember all these posts when KF and NP are gone and Ui football is starting over again. Morons.
I actually like the ****** off threads. They are can be very irrational and extrememly fun to read.
Then you have the well thought out ****** off thread which isn't as fun to read by very informative and in general very realistic.
My only question for the "****** off" crowd, particulary the ones targeting the coach, is where was this last December when Iowa needed a horrible throw by a good QB and a fantastic return to avoid a 4 game losing streak?
If Gabbert throws that ball away or takes a sack, Iowa would have been down by 10 less than a minute later because Missouri was shreading Iowa at that point.
Too many people were very happy with a medicore performance in a 3rd tier bowl game after a very poor season.
Then you have the well thought out ****** off thread which isn't as fun to read by very informative and in general very realistic.
My only question for the "****** off" crowd, particulary the ones targeting the coach, is where was this last December when Iowa needed a horrible throw by a good QB and a fantastic return to avoid a 4 game losing streak?
If Gabbert throws that ball away or takes a sack, Iowa would have been down by 10 less than a minute later because Missouri was shreading Iowa at that point.
Too many people were very happy with a medicore performance in a 3rd tier bowl game after a very poor season.
twinhawkfans
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And IF Coker trips and falls on the long TD run.............man that was easy.
UrbandaleHawk01
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I do not agree with this. The team with the QB who played lights out against a coach who refuses to adjust scheme won this game
tm3308
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I've not ripped on a single player. I've been p*ssed that the coaches didn't man up, but there wasn't much more that the players could have done.
HawkeyeDenis
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Gotta love the meltdown after a bad game. I put this game in perspective. It wasn't nearly as bad as last years loss to Minnesota. There was absolutely no reason for that loss. This year we have a lot of young players. They need experiance and training to be competitive. They will get better.
Now this is what I'm talking about!
After wins when the ball bounces Iowa's way even when they are outplayed & an eyelash away from being down double digits with 5 minutes in the game, its "everything is fine, nothing to see here, in Kirk we trust, blah blah".
But when Iowa doesn't get the bounces and they lose a tight game in which they were in the lead quite a bit, the same peeps are "sky is falling, fire the coach, Dline sucks, too conservative" etc.
Fact is you saw pretty much the same thing all last year as you did against ISU two days ago:
1. Conservative on both sides of the ball, avoiding mistakes at all costs
2. Defense not giving up a lot of points through 55 minutes (17)
3. Defense failing to hold a 4th quarter lead
4. Offense going into a shell for large portions of the game unable to move the ball
5. Really the only difference between last year & ISU 2011 was Iowa was up by 7 late instead of 3,4,5, or 6. Last year they gave up the winning TD late, this year the D gave up the tying TD late and proceded to give up 3 more TDs in overtime, not any different than what would have happened last year if the same situation would have presented itself against NW, MINN, OSU, AZ, or WIS.
I went nuts. Got mad, complained about almost every aspect of our D, and got it out. New week, new team, thats all I am saying. The kids and coaches have work to do, best we can do now, as fans is be supportive. So lets do our best and hope that creates an attitude for them to do theirs.
Maybe you should do that yourself, the question here is what is wrong with you?
Yet there were YET again yesterday and it won't be the last time they show how yellow they are either.
kicker22
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I guess the thing that get's me is both sides truly have a point, however to say that we shouldn't be allowed to vent because the team doesn't have that opportunity is a bit rediculous. The bottom line is we are nothing more than die hard fans, but in the scheme of things were irrelevant, so it doesn't matter whether we sulk or get ****** off and what we do in between games. The only thing that matters is that we come out on Saturday to support our favorite team and kick Pitt's butt up and down the field. Who cares what we do in the mean time. It's a game, whether we like it or not. Meaningless game or not its still a game and has little impact on our lives in the future.
scourt
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What's wrong with you!!! That is totally logical and dosen't belong here on HN!!!
1977Hawkeye
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What is wrong with me? We just lost to ISU for the 7th time in 13 years.
I make no apologies to you, olddude, if I can't just say "Aw shucks, we lost a game. Well, that's football!" a day or two after the game. To be 6-7 against an in-state rival that has ZERO football tradition tends to frustrate me.
I make no apologies to you, olddude, if I can't just say "Aw shucks, we lost a game. Well, that's football!" a day or two after the game. To be 6-7 against an in-state rival that has ZERO football tradition tends to frustrate me.
83Hawk
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Maybe, just maybe Kirk should have been focused on winning the game, not making the defensive unit "feel good".
Maybe, just maybe a smarter coach would see that his defense is completely out of gas and had not forced a punt since the second quarter, and tried to win the game with his offense instead of "hoping" the defense would suddenly turn it around or get lucky.
So tell me....which unit's confidence has gone up...the offense or the defense? I'd guess they both went DOWN.
