The War

[Westernhawk]

This president and war are so unpopular that DJT is doing the unthinkable. He's restricted access to the WH to press entities he deems unfriendly to him. This seems unconstitutional. The only industry specifically mentioned in the Constitution is the Press.

Amazingly (shockingly!), even Fox News considers this a bridge too far and has joined other networks in refusing WH pool coverage today.

This could set a terrible precedent for this president. When the tables turn, do you want Fox and Newsmax banned?

I've been accused of being lEfTisT! on this board, but can we all agree this is really bad?

TV Networks Refuse WH pool coverage after CNN barred from assignment

 

[BryceC]

I'm not advocating for an invasion, I think it would be horrible.

I'm saying that's the only way to fix the problem. And the problem isn't just oil prices. The US cannot afford to walk away the loser. There's way more at stake here than just embarrassment. It will completely flip the world order on its head, and not in a good way. It will show China and the fundamentalist Muslim/Jewish states that the US is a paper tiger and they'll fill the vacuum post haste. We aren't a paper tiger, but in order to hit the reset button we would have to do something painful to ourselves and the world...escalate the war and invade. As you said, that's not a quick-a-minute thing. We could get the takeover done in a couple weeks easily, but then what do you do? You can't just leave as we've seen in Iraq. Doesn't work.

That's what's so frustrating. This is one of those uncommon situations where there is no good option A, B, C, D, E, or F. What makes it worse is it didn't have to happen.

Yes these fuel prices are bad when we want to go on vacation...but the long-term impacts are going to be miles worse. This country is built around movement. Movement of goods, services, and people. When that becomes next to impossible this country is in for a dark, dark time. Maybe this is the downfall of a great nation, I don't know. I do know that no great civilization in recorded history has lasted more than 2-3 hundred years...Maybe it's hubris that we think this one is somehow immune to it.

It's ironic/sad/surreal, though, that it only took electing the one wrong guy and the complicity of about two dozen others to make it happen in a nation of 350,000,000 people.

We are a paper tiger and everybody already knows it.

Best thing to do would be to get with all of the other gulf states, say we are done, and help figure out some security deals.

The admin is setting this up to be another Iraq/Vietnam, the American people see it, and we want nothing to do with it.