Sorsby Granted Injunction to Play For Texas Tech

[NorthKCHawk]

Now a whole lotta schools ADs are coming out saying they are taking TT off their schedules for all sports not just football... Boy oh boy this could get interesting depending on how serious and how many schools get involved. Pull up a chair the drama isn't done yet

Good for them. No one outside of Collin Cowturd and Tech thinks this is a good thing for a variety of reasons. Setting aside the gambling side of this whole thing (which should be sacrosanct), it is just BS that eligibility should be decided on a case by case basis by a home town, retired judge. And, it is one thing if the kid sues and tries to get eligible. No one can control that. But, member instituions do control what they do. Here, Tech sent him to rehab, there, for the first time, he all of a sudden had a disease and not just enjoyed gambling, and then Tech supports the suit. Everyone needs to do their part to reverse this through pressure tactics. F@ck Tech. Start cancelling contracts and let them scrimmage themselves all year.

 

[dagdaj]

I mean, maybe one of the coaches....Sarkisian or the Texas Tech coach paid up that judge when it looked like the NCAA was going to let Texas Tech pay off the week 1 opponents so the two teams could meet up?
I mean, losing would be a horrible embarrassment to either Sarkisian or the TT coach depending on which team lost. Now, it could be an easier out for Sarkisian to bow out. Also, it's a great way to take the heat off 'your' Texas Tech coach if you think Texas woulda won? I mean, still forces Sarkisian to blink first, but makes it way easier to get him to blink.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I mean, maybe one of the coaches....Sarkisian or the Texas Tech coach paid up that judge when it looked like the NCAA was going to let Texas Tech pay off the week 1 opponents so the two teams could meet up?
I mean, losing would be a horrible embarrassment to either Sarkisian or the TT coach depending on which team lost. Now, it could be an easier out for Sarkisian to bow out. Also, it's a great way to take the heat off 'your' Texas Tech coach if you think Texas woulda won? I mean, still forces Sarkisian to blink first, but makes it way easier to get him to blink.

Tech will be legit with or without him. But, this kid is a first round talent. Would love to see one of the non conf schools cancel their game on this basis. I guess I am rooting for Hitler to screw over Satan in this scenario.

 

[haydensly]

Now a whole lotta schools ADs are coming out saying they are taking TT off their schedules for all sports not just football... Boy oh boy this could get interesting depending on how serious and how many schools get involved. Pull up a chair the drama isn't done yet

I certainly hope they follow through and ALL schools cancel their athletic events against TT. But I will be believe it when I see it. Easy to talk tough but if there is any $$ involved in the decision they will end up playing. That, or Cody Campbell will sue them.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I certainly hope they follow through and ALL schools cancel their athletic events against TT. But I will be believe it when I see it. Easy to talk tough but if there is any $$ involved in the decision they will end up playing. That, or Cody Campbell will sue them.

So far it's a couple big 12 schools I think. We'll see if it has legs or not.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

So far it's a couple big 12 schools I think. We'll see if it has legs or not.

Georgia and Nebraska's ADs have sent memos to their departments saying Tech cannot be scheduled without approval. The Big 10 as a conference is discussing the issue. Allegedly, there is talk of the CFP committee taking actions. I cannot imagine the Little 12 would let any of its members cancel conference events with Tech, but we are living in crazy times. As you noted, if a sufficient number of schools do this, it might force Tech's hand. I am sure Tech is hoping this just blows over. I think Tech weathers this storm unless and until a scheduled football game for this season is actually in danger. That would be too big a deal.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

These rouge judges are out of control. This is not the NCAA as North has stated. The judge was a retired judge from Tarrant County which is the Fort Worth area so he is not exactly local. But still, this strains credulity. I hate it.

No chit. He was retired so they paid him off, brought him in to get this specific ruling. Sure he had some ties and or just got paid off.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

This 'temporary injunction' will be overturned before the season starts. Bet on it.

I'm sure you can, somewhere.

It won't though, at least before the season starts. It will end up in litigation much after or even well into 2027.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

So Noah Shannon has a year of eligibility left.......right? Just saying....

Wouldn't happen. He's a couple years older and would have to get his body back into football shape and he's prob been mentally checked out of football. It's not easy to just hop into Div1 college football especially when you really don't know a lot of the current players or even coaches.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Now a whole lotta schools ADs are coming out saying they are taking TT off their schedules for all sports not just football... Boy oh boy this could get interesting depending on how serious and how many schools get involved. Pull up a chair the drama isn't done yet

Heard that as well. Good!

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I thought about this last night and this problem can be solved pretty easily. The CFP Committee should issue a statement that it will not take into account forfeits where a team chooses to forfeit a game because its opponent chooses to play an athlete that the NCAA has declared is ineligible, but the Committee will take into account as a material factor whether a team has played an athlete that the NCAA has declared ineligible when determining whether a team makes the 12-team playoffs.

Reading between the lines: you play Sorsby, no playoffs for you, Tech.

The CFP is wholly separate from the NCAA, so there is nothing the home town judge can do about it.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

I thought about this last night and this problem can be solved pretty easily. The CFP Committee should issue a statement that it will not take into account forfeits where a team chooses to forfeit a game because its opponent chooses to play an athlete that the NCAA has declared is ineligible, but the Committee will take into account as a material factor whether a team has played an athlete that the NCAA has declared ineligible when determining whether a team makes the 12-team playoffs.

Reading between the lines: you play Sorsby, no playoffs for you, Tech.

The CFP is wholly separate from the NCAA, so there is nothing the home town judge can do about it.

Yes, all the pressure will apparently come from teams avoiding to play them or as you point out the CFP making it so they would not be able to make the playoffs. That would be the pressure for them to take their own action on this. It is really a black eye on TT.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Lol. Below is a take from a TT fan on their board. WFT! What's worse?

"They'll need to rally around him for sure.

As fans, we will need to be prepared to refute arguments against him, whether they be based in reality or not.

There are plenty of examples of players commiting far more heinous crimes and being ruled eligble to play than the case with Sorsby. We'll just need to point to those."

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Lol. Below is a take from a TT fan on their board. WFT! What's worse?

"They'll need to rally around him for sure.

As fans, we will need to be prepared to refute arguments against him, whether they be based in reality or not.

There are plenty of examples of players commiting far more heinous crimes and being ruled eligble to play than the case with Sorsby. We'll just need to point to those."

I agree that far worse humans that have done far more immoral acts have been allowed to play college football. Lawrence Phillips is the example I came up with off the top of my head. That is a straw man argument. Gambling is third rail and these kids are taught that from day 1 and it is repeated over and over again. They know it. He did it 9,000 times and admitted to it. Gambling on your own team is a death sentence. It quite literally calls into question the integrity of the sport as a whole. He admitted to betting on his own team at Indiana.

Sorsby not being able to play college football is not a moral judgment that he is a bad person. I don't know shit about this kid. What I do know is that he crossed a line that everyone who has ever played college or professional sports knows you do not cross. Sorry. That choice has consequences. Except in Lubbock, Texas I guess. F@ck Tech.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Lol. Below is a take from a TT fan on their board. WFT! What's worse?

"They'll need to rally around him for sure.

As fans, we will need to be prepared to refute arguments against him, whether they be based in reality or not.

There are plenty of examples of players commiting far more heinous crimes and being ruled eligble to play than the case with Sorsby. We'll just need to point to those."

The most obvious of precedent was just set with Noah Shannon... He bet like $20 one time on the womens hoops team and that's all it took for him to lose his Sr yr. The fact 'worse' stuff has happened is irrelevant for comparisons sake. Gotta love irrational fans.

 

[BryceC]

Again, I am not a Texas lawyer, but you have this mixed up. The trial judge, the one who issued the temporary injunction, set the trial for February 2027. That seems like the normal course of things. The NCAA has filed a motion with the court of appeals to have the appeal heard now and on an expedited basis. That is what I was expecting and it shows the NCAA is doing its part. We will see what the appeals court does.

The court of appeals is apparently made up of 4 Tech alums. Such a joke. So, in order for there to be any shot at justice here, these Tech judges would have to agree to take the appeal now, agree to hear it and decide it quickly, and rule that the trial court's order is horse shit. Anyone want to put odds on that all happening?

I’m not a Texas lawyer, but every media person I’ve seen has said the appeal won’t be heard until after the season.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I’m not a Texas lawyer, but every media person I’ve seen has said the appeal won’t be heard until after the season.

That is what is most likely, but I would not be shocked if the court of appeals took up an appeal now

 

[Hawkboys]

I was just flipping channels and heard Collin Cowturd's take on this. He basically said, these are kids, they are not professionals like Pete Rose, I don't think a kid should be buried for making a mistake, this seems okay. As usual, he is wrong across the board. Sorsby is a legal adult. He is getting paid millions of dollars to play football. He made over 9,000 bets, some on his own team.

This "kid" should never see another snap of college football and I would not draft a kid as my QB with such shitty judgment.

He always takes the opposite view of whatever is public opinion. I don't believe for 1 second he feels this way personally.

 

[hawkinn3]

The consequence of this is you can gamble on your own games and still play college football.

Insider trading is no longer prosecuted, you can bet on prediction markets on events you have control over.

There’s no rules anymore. Steal as much as you can before somebody else does.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

The Big 12 is suing Tech in federal court to get a determination that it can enforce its bylaws and punish Tech if they play this kid. Love it. They were smart to preemptively sue in federal court to stay away from the home town state court judge and the Texas AG. If the Judge agrees with the conference, Tech is risking being left out of the title game, fined, wins vacated or even being booted from the conference.

I want to hear from the CFPC next. They should be doing the same thing. Suing to determine that they can leave Tech out of the playoffs for playing an ineligible player.