trj
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That is where I am at as well.
Perpetual eligiblity
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That is where I am at as well.
NorthKCHawk
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You take a couple of reported examples in the media and extrapolate that to every kid. Not accurate. Not at all. Sure, are there kids at Iowa and elsewhere biding time before they take their shot at the pros? Yes. Are there kids there that have already graduated and still have eligibility so they are pretending to be students? Sure.
But, the vast majority of these kids are going to class and getting degrees. Iowa's overall student athlete graduation rate is almost 90%. It also has a very high APR. Most of these kids know they are not going pro and need an education to make a living after college. So, these are true student athletes. Even in football, most of the kids that come through the program are going to class and getting degrees.
I don't understand the mentality of divesting generations of kids the opportunity to play football at Iowa, makes some NIL money, and get a degree to advance their lives, all so some people can feel better about a "cleaner" pro product and cheering for a 36 year old left guard. I just don't get it.
Keep college athletics collegiate. Please.
Fryowa
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36 years old is a little hyperbolic.
As far as kids needing college educations, that's more overblown nowadays than it's ever been. Unless you have a desire to enter a specialist field that requires a degree you're way smarter to enter the workforce. My son went to work in an HVAC apprenticeship the Monday morning after he graduated from high school the day before, and in a few years he'll make more money than me and my business degree. He's always telling me how much he loves his job and he has plenty of time and flexibility to hunt and fish which are his two big loves in life. I understand that due to the nature of your job degrees are the most important thing one ever gets for you and your colleagues, because without that you go nowhere. Also for doctors, teachers, engineers, etc. But there is a whole lot bigger world outside that bubble.
Kids are definitely being told they absolutely have to have a college degree to go anywhere in life, but that doesn't make it true. There's just as big a percentage of plumbers, sales reps, welders, technicians, etc with a house in the burbs, 2 vehicles, a boat, and a CC membership as there are doctors and lawyers.
It wouldn't be real hard to require guys to be enrolled at a college while playing there and allow them to continue when and if they graduate. And let's stop pretending that any of these guys are going to spend 12 years playing college ball. Again, hyperbole. Mark Gronowski (or whoever) would not set up a ten year residency as the Iowa quarterback.
And also again, it's not collegiate now. That's in your head. Kids playing at a starter level in P4 are there to play football first, period...the degree is secondary which is the exact opposite of what it used to be when guys were there for the education and happened to also play football. You're acting like if they didn't have a college scholarship to play ball that they'd be dead in a gutter from fentanyl by age 22. That's just not true. They'll find their paths in life like everyone else. For those who wouldn't go to college without playing football...is that the goal and the responsibility of college football as a whole?
I suppose that is what DII and DIII would be for.
