Nebraska Post Game

[NorthKCHawk]

Living in enemy territory, I got the download from the local pundits this morning driving to work. First, they commented that Hoiberg was pissed and his postgame interview was very terse. He commented that Iowa played more physical and his team did not match that physicality.

The pundits and fans implied that Iowa got away with a lot of holding and fouls, but everyone seemed to acknowledge that Iowa was more physical and the refs were letting them play. Personally, I thought Stirz was regularly getting mugged in the lane in the act of shooting and few fouls were called. But overall, I thought the refs were pretty fair to both sides, but their whistles were inconsistent.

The radio guys suggested that there is enough tape out there on Sanford now that teams are catching up to him and to Nebbie as a whole. They snuck up on a lot of teams early, but they are being exposed a bit now.

The radio guys acknowledged that Iowa dominated the boards, but that is apparently the way Hoiberg is. He values getting back on defense more than crashing the boards. I thought Iowa just wanted the ball more for most of the game.

In general, the Nebbie radio guys were pretty complimentary of Iowa. Iowa played ugly, forced its game on Nebraska, and Nebraska could not push through.

 

[Fryowa]

Living in enemy territory, I got the download from the local pundits this morning driving to work. First, they commented that Hoiberg was pissed and his postgame interview was very terse. He commented that Iowa played more physical and his team did not match that physicality.

The pundits and fans implied that Iowa got away with a lot of holding and fouls, but everyone seemed to acknowledge that Iowa was more physical and the refs were letting them play. Personally, I thought Stirz was regularly getting mugged in the lane in the act of shooting and few fouls were called. But overall, I thought the refs were pretty fair to both sides, but their whistles were inconsistent.

The radio guys suggested that there is enough tape out there on Sanford now that teams are catching up to him and to Nebbie as a whole. They snuck up on a lot of teams early, but they are being exposed a bit now.

The radio guys acknowledged that Iowa dominated the boards, but that is apparently the way Hoiberg is. He values getting back on defense more than crashing the boards. I thought Iowa just wanted the ball more for most of the game.

In general, the Nebbie radio guys were pretty complimentary of Iowa. Iowa played ugly, forced its game on Nebraska, and Nebraska could not push through.

The refs allowed a free for all on both ends. It wasn't just Iowa.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

The refs allowed a free for all on both ends. It wasn't just Iowa.

The play when Combs went over the guy and the ref raised his hand called a foul then after the TO evidently didn't call anything was about as weird play as their was. TV guys said double foul. The one thing they shouldn't have done was what they did though. You can take back having called an F1 or F2 but I didn't think they could change their minds about having called a regular foul during a TV TO. They should've had to explain that one.

 

[haydensly]

Living in enemy territory, I got the download from the local pundits this morning driving to work. First, they commented that Hoiberg was pissed and his postgame interview was very terse. He commented that Iowa played more physical and his team did not match that physicality.

The pundits and fans implied that Iowa got away with a lot of holding and fouls, but everyone seemed to acknowledge that Iowa was more physical and the refs were letting them play. Personally, I thought Stirz was regularly getting mugged in the lane in the act of shooting and few fouls were called. But overall, I thought the refs were pretty fair to both sides, but their whistles were inconsistent.

The radio guys suggested that there is enough tape out there on Sanford now that teams are catching up to him and to Nebbie as a whole. They snuck up on a lot of teams early, but they are being exposed a bit now.

The radio guys acknowledged that Iowa dominated the boards, but that is apparently the way Hoiberg is. He values getting back on defense more than crashing the boards. I thought Iowa just wanted the ball more for most of the game.

In general, the Nebbie radio guys were pretty complimentary of Iowa. Iowa played ugly, forced its game on Nebraska, and Nebraska could not push through.

I thought the game was poorly officiated but it was for both sides. The fact that two of their calls were challenged and reversed was one tell. But there were lots of fouls, both ways, that weren't called.

As for the radio guys, it's nice they can at least give Iowa some credit. That never seems to extend to the football games that we beat them.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Living in enemy territory, I got the download from the local pundits this morning driving to work. First, they commented that Hoiberg was pissed and his postgame interview was very terse. He commented that Iowa played more physical and his team did not match that physicality.

The pundits and fans implied that Iowa got away with a lot of holding and fouls, but everyone seemed to acknowledge that Iowa was more physical and the refs were letting them play. Personally, I thought Stirz was regularly getting mugged in the lane in the act of shooting and few fouls were called. But overall, I thought the refs were pretty fair to both sides, but their whistles were inconsistent.

The radio guys suggested that there is enough tape out there on Sanford now that teams are catching up to him and to Nebbie as a whole. They snuck up on a lot of teams early, but they are being exposed a bit now.

The radio guys acknowledged that Iowa dominated the boards, but that is apparently the way Hoiberg is. He values getting back on defense more than crashing the boards. I thought Iowa just wanted the ball more for most of the game.

In general, the Nebbie radio guys were pretty complimentary of Iowa. Iowa played ugly, forced its game on Nebraska, and Nebraska could not push through.

Iowa does play an ugly game when they have to and do run the clock down, but IMO, they are still exciting to watch. This is not the Todd Lickliter era with that style at all. If one knows the game and knows what to watch for, this team is enjoyable to watch the technical aspects of the offense.

Yes, they play a slower pace stat-wise, but when watching it doesn't feel like it and the clock runs down fairly fast it seems. So, they are just very particular and efficient on offense.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Anybody know what chants were being said towards Sandfort? I wasn't there and it was hard to determine watching on TV. Just curious.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Iowa does play an ugly game when they have to and do run the clock down, but IMO, they are still exciting to watch. This is not the Todd Lickliter era with that style at all. If one knows the game and knows what to watch for, this team is enjoyable to watch the technical aspects of the offense.

Yes, they play a slower pace stat-wise, but when watching it doesn't feel like it and the clock runs down fairly fast it seems. So, they are just very particular and efficient on offense.

When Iowas O is really going yes you're right. For much of this game though and especially the 2nd half of it their was a lot of Stirtz just dribbling it around. Not as much ball movement was being done. Would be interested to know the why with that but that O was really a one man show most of the 2nd half it seemed like without much help of anyone else stepping up. This O needs another shooter/ball handler on the floor in the worst way. Hausen can help with the shooting side of it but Ben doesn't seem to want to go that route much. Beyond that the roster is what it is

 

[MelroseHawkins]

When Iowas O is really going yes you're right. For much of this game though and especially the 2nd half of it their was a lot of Stirtz just dribbling it around. Not as much ball movement was being done. Would be interested to know the why with that but that O was really a one man show most of the 2nd half it seemed like without much help of anyone else stepping up. This O needs another shooter/ball handler on the floor in the worst way. Hausen can help with the shooting side of it but Ben doesn't seem to want to go that route much. Beyond that the roster is what it is

Agree. They had their moments thought. I remember on some possessions them really zipping the ball around. Koch was the other guy last night but they do suffer from having another consistent contributor that the D has to key on night in and night out. Folgueiras is the guy that needs to have consistency as he can hit it outside & play inside a bit. Really, good teams that make a deep run in the tourney I always thought have to have a 3 headed monster on offense.

The fact that Stirtz can have the productivity he does while being the guy other teams are really keying on night in and night out is tremendous. The NBA guys have to really like that.

 

[Fryowa]

When Iowas O is really going yes you're right. For much of this game though and especially the 2nd half of it their was a lot of Stirtz just dribbling it around. Not as much ball movement was being done. Would be interested to know the why with that but that O was really a one man show most of the 2nd half it seemed like without much help of anyone else stepping up. This O needs another shooter/ball handler on the floor in the worst way. Hausen can help with the shooting side of it but Ben doesn't seem to want to go that route much. Beyond that the roster is what it is

Agree. They had their moments thought. I remember on some possessions them really zipping the ball around. Koch was the other guy last night but they do suffer from having another consistent contributor that the D has to key on night in and night out. Folgueiras is the guy that needs to have consistency as he can hit it outside & play inside a bit. Really, good teams that make a deep run in the tourney I always thought have to have a 3 headed monster on offense.

The fact that Stirtz can have the productivity he does while being the guy other teams are really keying on night in and night out is tremendous. The NBA guys have to really like that.

If you watch the postgame McCollum talks quite a bit about this actually. He says fred hoebag's defensive sets are super wacky and unique and not something you ever see in college basketball. Guessing it's NAB style sets coming through.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I was not impressed with the offense or the coaching on that side of the ball. As noted, it devolved as the game went. I would describe it as pass the ball 30 feet from the hoop until Stirz gets it in his hands with less than 10 seconds and then hope he can do something with it. There is absolutely no effort to get the ball into the post, nor really a whole lot of motion offense to it.

My buddy commented that everyone looked scared to shoot unless they had no choice.

I am dumbfounded that BM did not get Hausen into the game. He was more than capable of guarding little Hoiberg and could have offered some outside shooting.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Agree. They had their moments thought. I remember on some possessions them really zipping the ball around. Koch was the other guy last night but they do suffer from having another consistent contributor that the D has to key on night in and night out. Folgueiras is the guy that needs to have consistency as he can hit it outside & play inside a bit. Really, good teams that make a deep run in the tourney I always thought have to have a 3 headed monster on offense.

The fact that Stirtz can have the productivity he does while being the guy other teams are really keying on night in and night out is tremendous. The NBA guys have to really like that.

Stirtz made himself some money last night. His offensive game is obvious and effective, but if you are a scout watching that game, and you saw a kid play 40-minutes and functionally shut down a Top 10 teams best player, guarding him 1-1 almost the entire game. And he was giving up 3 inches. That was more impressive than his offense last night.

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

I don't understand what's happened with the offense. Earlier this season was some of the best ball movement I think I've ever seen from an Iowa team. It was part of what got me so excited. McCollum, facilitated by the play of a senior PG, was insisting that his team relentlessly pursue a good shot, even if it meant giving up decent shots or the shot clock expiring. I thought it was beautiful basketball, and the same thing Drake showed last year. It takes a special group of kids to buy into that, and maybe partially explained what McCollum was looking for in recruits.

I'm not sure what's happened lately, but the crisp ball movement isn't always there.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I don't understand what's happened with the offense. Earlier this season was some of the best ball movement I think I've ever seen from an Iowa team. It was part of what got me so excited. McCollum, facilitated by the play of a senior PG, was insisting that his team relentlessly pursue a good shot, even if it meant giving up decent shots or the shot clock expiring. I thought it was beautiful basketball, and the same thing Drake showed last year. It takes a special group of kids to buy into that, and maybe partially explained what McCollum was looking for in recruits.

I'm not sure what's happened lately, but the crisp ball movement isn't always there.

In fairness, Nebbie is a Top 5 national defense as of this morning on the radio (last night's game helped that ranking)

 

[thedukeofearl]

Iowa does play an ugly game when they have to and do run the clock down, but IMO, they are still exciting to watch. This is not the Todd Lickliter era with that style at all. If one knows the game and knows what to watch for, this team is enjoyable to watch the technical aspects of the offense.

Yes, they play a slower pace stat-wise, but when watching it doesn't feel like it and the clock runs down fairly fast it seems. So, they are just very particular and efficient on offense.

They are really fun to watch

Ben is an excellent coach and it is usually a pleasure to watch the Lads play his style of ball

Very enjoyable season to watch

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

In fairness, Nebbie is a Top 5 national defense as of this morning on the radio (last night's game helped that ranking)

I think that's part of it, but it also seems to go back several games.

 

[TritonHawkeye]

I think that's part of it, but it also seems to go back several games.

It may be that the spacing has changed. Iowa was getting out rebounded and doesn't have anyone that can really control the boards alone. They may be playing more guys closer to the hoop, sacrificing spacing for better rebound positioning? It was refreshing to see more crisp and sharper passes, even if it was mostly in the 1st half. However all in all, I think they are still undisciplined and mostly lazy in that area and am hoping they can shore it up.

 

[Westernhawk]

Living in enemy territory, I got the download from the local pundits this morning driving to work. First, they commented that Hoiberg was pissed and his postgame interview was very terse. He commented that Iowa played more physical and his team did not match that physicality.

The pundits and fans implied that Iowa got away with a lot of holding and fouls, but everyone seemed to acknowledge that Iowa was more physical and the refs were letting them play. Personally, I thought Stirz was regularly getting mugged in the lane in the act of shooting and few fouls were called. But overall, I thought the refs were pretty fair to both sides, but their whistles were inconsistent.

The radio guys suggested that there is enough tape out there on Sanford now that teams are catching up to him and to Nebbie as a whole. They snuck up on a lot of teams early, but they are being exposed a bit now.

The radio guys acknowledged that Iowa dominated the boards, but that is apparently the way Hoiberg is. He values getting back on defense more than crashing the boards. I thought Iowa just wanted the ball more for most of the game.

In general, the Nebbie radio guys were pretty complimentary of Iowa. Iowa played ugly, forced its game on Nebraska, and Nebraska could not push through.

Our football program has them conditioned well! Same concept. Ugly rock fight, and Iowa wins. I love it.

 

[Grady]

If you watch the postgame McCollum talks quite a bit about this actually. He says fred hoebag's defensive sets are super wacky and unique and not something you ever see in college basketball. Guessing it's NAB style sets coming through.

Their D did look a little different -- but there were openings in it, along the FT line, and skip passes across court. The skip passes worked well in the 1st half, because it got NE defenders reacting to the pass one direction, then Iowa would quickly pass it around the horn, keeping NE defenders scrambling until one got out of place, then BOOM, basket. Didn't see that much the 2nd half...mainly was just give it to Stirtz and mostly stand around, catch it, then pass it back to him.

If Fulgerous felt comfortable shooting along the FT line, he'd be unstoppable. At 6'10", nobody's gonna block his shot, and most Centers/tall Forwards aren't comfortable defending that far away from the basket. He would have had a lot of opportunities with that shot last night. Kinda similar to the opportunities that Heiden gets from the wing for the women's team.

 

[HawkeyeHypnosis]

From tv it sounded like they were chanting ‘F Pryce Sandfordt’

 

[HuckFinn]

From tv it sounded like they were chanting ‘F Pryce Sandfordt’

Yes they were. Also chanting “F@@@ Nebraska. I was at the game. It was loud and clear. Not personally crazy about it.