Miller: 2010 Iowa DL: Best All Time?

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A message board poster (iowahawkeyes89, linked here) brought up this topic on Sunday, and it’s a topic that is being bandied about throughout the Hawkeye Nation, water coolers and more:

Will the 2010 defensive line be the best in school history?

As I posted on the message boards, it’s tough to answer questions like these because none of us has seen every Iowa defensive line in history. The number of people that use this message board that saw Evachevski’s defensive lines in the 1950’s is relatively small. The number of people that saw the line of the Ironmen in the late 1930’s that are on this board are microscopic.

I try to look back at things that I have been witness to in my lifetime, and my cognizant memory of Iowa football begins with the 1981 season…I know, that’s pretty convenient, but I was 10 years old that fall, in the 4th grade. I remember bits and pieces of that season, more pieces than bits in fact. Enough memory to recall the names and good enough with technology to go to the places to find the information that still exists about those teams.
In my opinion, the 1981 Iowa defense is the standard.

Points Allowed: 13.0/game, #9 all time and the best mark after 1960
Rushing Yards Allowed: 79.7/game & just 2.4 per rushing attempt, both school records
Passing Defense: 21 passes intercepted to just seven touchdowns allowed
Total Defense: 232.5, 4th best in school history and the best mark after 1957.
Turnovers gained: 36

To help put these numbers into a bit of perspective, you have to think back to the game of college football through the decades…Iowa’s Hayden Fry and Illinois coach Mike White ushered in a new era of Big Ten football, namely the copious usage of the passing game. There had been some passing teams in the league before those two programs opened it up with regularity, but they were few and far between. The game of football was mostly won or lost on the ground up until the late 1970’s and early 1980’s. In 1981, it was still pretty much a ground game in the league, so to put up rushing defensive totals like that group did is mind boggling. We are talking about school records here in arguably the most dominant statistic there is in all of football; stopping the run.

Also, the points allowed per game that season, which include the bowl game (28-0 loss to Washington) are phenomenal, because there were plenty of years in older era’s where points were hard to come by due to the nature of the game of football.

That group was unreal, to put it bluntly and accurately. It was Iowa’s own version of the Steel Curtain at the same time the Pittsburgh Steelers were using that nickname for their defense.

The 2002 Iowa defense, perhaps the most intimidating group of my lifetime, is #2 on the all time list related to rushing yards allowed per game at 81.9. The 2004 defense, which is my pick for the best front four of the Ferentz era to date, is 3rd on that list at 92.5. The 2003 Iowa defense is #4 all time at 92.7 (Jared Clauss & Howard Hodges started on the #2 and #4 ranked rushing defenses). The 2008 Iowa defense is #5 on that list, at 94.0 per game.
Hey, even I am sharp enough to notice a theme here; four of the ten best run stopping units in Iowa history have come in the last eight years. Norm Parker deserves a raise.

The 2008 Iowa defense tied with the 1981 defense in allowing 13.0 points per game, and they also played one more game than the 1981 squad. That’s a part of the reason why I wrote last year that the 2008 Iowa defense was the most statistically dominant Iowa defense since that 1981 squad.

Last year’s Iowa defense was one of the best in the nation, ranking 10th in total defense. However, it was a rather ho-hum 34th in the nation against the run (123 yards per game) which means it allowed more than the 2001 Iowa defense did on the ground. However, last year’s secondary was probably the most talented in pass coverage of any Iowa defense of the Ferentz era. Last year’s defense had 21 picks, tying the 1981 mark. Last year’s defense was 10th in the nation in scoring defense, allowing 15.3 points per game. Take away the four pick sixes that Rick Stanzi threw, plus the fumble by Stanzi in the endzone against Northwestern, and the 2008 group allowed just 12.69 per game, which would have moved it ahead of the 1981 & 2008 teams…but I cannot recall how many similar points were put on the board for those squads.

This brings us to this year’s Iowa defensive line…can they be the best ever? Will they be better than the 2004 group of Roth, Babineaux, Robinson and Leubke? Will they be better than the 2002 version of Clauss, Cole, Hodges and Babineaux (who was later injured that year). Will they be better than the 2008 group of King, Kroul, Clayborn and Ballard?

Adrian Clayborn is already being talked about as a Top Five NFL draft pick for 2011 and is going to be a first team preseason All American in any publication that is legitimate. Broderick Binns has been named to the preseason Lombardi watch list, and he might be the 4th best of the front four…which is not an insult by any stretch. Christian Ballard will be a three year starter, and his best defensive tackle days are ahead of him, as he moved from end to tackle before the start of last season. Norm Parker has referred to Karl Klug in the same breath as the likes of Matt Roth, Mitch King and Matt Kroul and recently said that if we were talking about a street fight, he’s not so sure that Klug wouldn’t whoop everybody.

Just how well this front does against the run this year will go a long way in defining their place in Iowa football history, and that of course will be aided by the linebackers behind them. Another factor will be how much success the 2010 team has on the whole.

The 1981, 2002 and 2004 Iowa teams were Big Ten Champions. The 2008 team lost four games by a grand total of 12 points. The 2003 team won 10 games and a January Bowl game. The 2009 team won 11 games and a BCS bowl game, the first BCS bowl win since the 1950’s.

We are talking about all time teams here…the anticipation for the 2010 season might be the most since the 1985 season, which was another Big Ten title team and one of the three best in school history.

It’s going to be tough for any defense to top the 1981 version, but today’s game is a different game and it’s unfair to compare statistics. Just win, and the accolades will come
 
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It's a pretty interesting topic. I'm too young to remember the 81 group but those stats are pretty difficult to argue with.

I will say this. I watched a replay of the Iowa LSU outback bowl a few weeks back. I hadn't seen it since the original air date. I was completely BLOWN AWAY by how dominant our D-Line was in that game. Granted it was only one game but we absolutely owned the line of scrimmage (and the LSU backfield as well).

If this group is anything close to what that group was it's going to be fun to watch.
 
It's a pretty interesting topic. I'm too young to remember the 81 group but those stats are pretty difficult to argue with.

I will say this. I watched a replay of the Iowa LSU outback bowl a few weeks back. I hadn't seen it since the original air date. I was completely BLOWN AWAY by how dominant our D-Line was in that game. Granted it was only one game but we absolutely owned the line of scrimmage (and the LSU backfield as well).

If this group is anything close to what that group was it's going to be fun to watch.

When you had the inside/outside penetration combination with Babs and Roth, it's tough to top that. I think we'll see that this year times two with Ballard and Klug on the inside, and Clayborn on the outside...if Binns can step it up, it could seem unfair at some times.
 
I still think the 1981 defense was the best IOWA has ever seen and I do not see this year's unit topping that. That is nothing to be ashamed about, however. That 1981 defense won the conference and I say they won it, because the offense was pretty much nonexistent that year. Also, that line contained a future NFL HoF member.

That takes nothing away from this group and they are at least in the discussion for best ever and that is saying something.
 
So who comprised the 1981 DL? I would think names would be very prudent to this discussion.


Andre Tippett (DE), Mark Bortz (DT), Pat Dean (NG), Pekar DT?) and Brad Webb were main players I can remember. Browne was another player who I think may have played DT and NG both.

Tippett and Bortz were dominant players.
 
very interesting topic...the numbers from this past season can be somewhat deceiving(in the points perspective) with slingin dick throwing so many rick 6's...but its really hard to argue with what that 1981 team did. i'm too young to have seen any of that, but those numbers speak for themselves.

i obviously remember the 2004 and 2008 defensive lines and i never thought i'd have a chance to see that much domination put together again. this year could be a very special year for not just the defensive front, but the whole defense as a unit. they have the size, speed, and discipline to be really scary for opposing offenses.

When you had the inside/outside penetration combination with Babs and Roth, it's tough to top that. I think we'll see that this year times two with Ballard and Klug on the inside, and Clayborn on the outside...if Binns can step it up, it could seem unfair at some times.

ain't that the truth?! :D
 
Questions that I think are especially valid here are:

- Are the run D numbers in '81 more impressive because the Big 10 was so run-heavy?

Here the argument hinges on the assertion that it's impressive that the D was able to have success impeding the strength of the league's best Os.

- Are the run D number is '81 less impressive because the Big 10 was so run-heavy?

Here the argument hinges on the strategic fact that its harder to defend well-balanced Os than 1-dimensional ones.
 
As for my own impression of the 2010 DL ... I don't know if it will be the best. However, I do believe that it has the potential to be the best. I simply do not recall an Iowa DL that was as BALANCED across the line. Given the experience and talent of each guy ... there are strong arguments supporting why each guy merits getting double-teamed. However, unless the opposition face off against us using the wildcat on every-down ... that won't happen.

What's interesting about the 2009 DL is that often statistical production gets unduly weighted by the first half of the season when the team faces off against cupcakes. In contrast, only Klug had better TFL production in the first half of the season as compared to the latter half ... the rest of the guys had better TFL production in the latter half of the season. In fact, it seemed that when Ballard "came alive" it really positively impacted Clayborn's production.

The above observation could be due to the fact that Klug was garnering a bit more attention from opposing offenses ... and that then opened up more opportunities for Ballard. Of course, Ballard also seemed to only truly hit his stride at the DT spot at the end of the season anyhow.

By the end of the '09 season, the primary "exploitable" weakness of the DL was the fact that opposing OL's could push around Binns more than the other guys. That's no knock on Binns ... it simply reflects the fact that he was still an underclassmen. From everything I've gathered, Binns has continued to physically develop ... and when you combine that with his talent, his long arms, and his added experience ... he is going to be that much more dangerous.

Just as long as the '10 DL keeps on working hard and doesn't underestimate their foes ... I think that the unit definitely has an incredible upside. Let's just hope that they can remain healthy ....
 
I still think the 1981 defense was the best IOWA has ever seen and I do not see this year's unit topping that. That is nothing to be ashamed about, however. That 1981 defense won the conference and I say they won it, because the offense was pretty much nonexistent that year. Also, that line contained a future NFL HoF member.

That takes nothing away from this group and they are at least in the discussion for best ever and that is saying something.

Bluz, I watched the 1981 team. The question is about the DL not the entire Defense. The "81" D-Line was a very good unit, But this 2010/2011 D-Line can go down as the best.

If you go to NFL DRAFT DOG Mock 2011 they have both Clayborn #2 Pick and Ballard #30 Pick going in the 1st round.
http://www.nfldraftdog.com/Mock-Drafts/2011-nfl-mock-draft.html
 
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