ajones1996
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We had more stalling calls than takedowns
Iowa vs Penn St. Miracle on (Ice/Mat)
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HawkIowa44
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Has Iowa ever had a dual where they won one or less matches? Pre-Gable is the only possibility. Same with only two takedowns?
Scott Leclair
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JFC, Crowd did everything to try and pump up the wrestlers. Yet this is the performance we get?
The lack of effort in getting points is unreal. crap ton of hand fighting but to much of this “bend don’t break” type wrestling. Hand fight till roughly 25 seconds left in the 3rd. Then they take a bunch of shots. Transfer porthole has been a bust and recruiting is nothing like it used to be.
Understand 2027/2028 has great talent but nothing is guaranteed. See Bo Bassett. It all starts at the top. Changes are needed. HC,assistants,wrestling styles. Not sure but this is t working
The lack of effort in getting points is unreal. crap ton of hand fighting but to much of this “bend don’t break” type wrestling. Hand fight till roughly 25 seconds left in the 3rd. Then they take a bunch of shots. Transfer porthole has been a bust and recruiting is nothing like it used to be.
Understand 2027/2028 has great talent but nothing is guaranteed. See Bo Bassett. It all starts at the top. Changes are needed. HC,assistants,wrestling styles. Not sure but this is t working
Scott Leclair
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Kueter might want to stick with football. Iowa needs a legit heavyweight.
No way Ferrari should lose to that dude. Same with Kueter
No way Ferrari should lose to that dude. Same with Kueter
B Ferentz
BILLYBOBSTEXAS
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Sad to say, and I hate to say it, but the Brand brothers just don't have it any more. Their type of wrestling is to old school to work with todays athletes. New blood needed badly!
#1DieHardHawk
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It's hard to watch, that's for sure.
Tom and Terry are not going to change their ways, period. Even if by some miracle they wanted to, I don't think they could. Unfortunately, moving on from them has an almost zero chance of making a substantive difference. The program probably would hit rock bottom, then would scratch and claw to get back to being in the conversation for second place.
I care enough to continue to watch the matches, but I'm done with Tom's pressers. They might as well play one of them over and over again:
"We go back to work starting tomorrow." "We have to improve." "We have to find a way to control the match and score points." "It starts with me." "We have the right guys. . ."
As frustrating as that is, I honestly don't know what else he can say. He's been beating that drum for the past several seasons. The problem is, at some point what you preach needs to show up on the mat. If it's not, then take a long look in the mirror.
Tom and Terry are not going to change their ways, period. Even if by some miracle they wanted to, I don't think they could. Unfortunately, moving on from them has an almost zero chance of making a substantive difference. The program probably would hit rock bottom, then would scratch and claw to get back to being in the conversation for second place.
I care enough to continue to watch the matches, but I'm done with Tom's pressers. They might as well play one of them over and over again:
"We go back to work starting tomorrow." "We have to improve." "We have to find a way to control the match and score points." "It starts with me." "We have the right guys. . ."
As frustrating as that is, I honestly don't know what else he can say. He's been beating that drum for the past several seasons. The problem is, at some point what you preach needs to show up on the mat. If it's not, then take a long look in the mirror.
Who would they go after?
Fryowa
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^^^this.
Wrestling isn’t like football where there’s a million and a half qualified elite guys to take jobs. It’s a way bigger crapshoot.
Kyle Syder? NLWC guy. Ain’t gonna be lured away to Iowa.
Kyle Dake? NLWC guy.
Burroughs? Hates freestyle and is the most vocal person in the country saying collegiate wrestling needs to switch to freestyle because folk is why we sick in the Olympics and international wrestling. I heartily agree, btw, but I digress.
David Taylor was available but again, Penn State guy and OSU paid him major bank.
Spencer Lee? Head case fighting demons and would be a carbon copy of the Brands.
Schwab? Unknown name to any recruits outside Iowa, doesn’t have the resume or experience and would be Zalesky 2.0. Again most importantly, in a sport where recruiting is literally everything, how would a name like Schwab differentiate himself in a world where Iowa is a bunch of notches lower on the NIL totem pole?
Money is everything in this sport now, guys. Time to accept it. Give the Brands’ $10 million a year and they’ll never lose another dual ever. Just like Sanderson will never lose another dual or natty until some bigger donor comes along at a different school (ain’t gonna happen).
I just follow international instead. Better sport, more exciting, and not wrecked by NIL. No pro leagues to earn millions so everyone is there for a shot at glory and nothing more.
I REPEAT:
Collegiate wrestlers are in the sport for money now, period. Wrestling used to be a "pure" collegiate sport because there was no way to make a living out of it after college was done. You can coach, yes, but that's a different job...it's not wrestling and you aren't getting paid to perform the sport you're good at.
Now, wrestlers in college know they can make few million over their careers and they have to do everything they can to get as much as they can, wherever they can. There's no NBA or NFL waiting for them when they're done. International wrestlers in the US make less than minor league baseball players which is gas money, meals, and lodging. Guys competing in international wrestling are there for one reason...a shot at a medal. It's honorable. It's pure in the sense that they aren't there for the money. And it's one of the many reasons international freestyle is a better sport to watch and follow.
