Iowa Punched Their Ticket to the Dance with this Victory

[ChosenChildren]

Big Win over Maryland. A must win. I just don't see any chance that Iowa won't be in the NCAA tournament now.

We have a 50/50 chance to beat Ohio State, but a loss will be a quad 1 loss, which won't hurt them. Another loss to Maryland would have been very damaging, but the Hawks took care of business.

 

[InGoodCo]

Big Win over Maryland. A must win. I just don't see any chance that Iowa won't be in the NCAA tournament now.

We have a 50/50 chance to beat Ohio State, but a loss will be a quad 1 loss, which won't hurt them. Another loss to Maryland would have been very damaging, but the Hawks took care of business.

Iowa was in whether they won or lost, but Dayton is completely off the table now at least.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

No they didn't.

 

[InGoodCo]

No they didn't.

Right, they did that in December and January

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Before today's game, Iowa was closer to being a 7 seed than being out of the tournament altogether. Much closer. People, please just look up the NET rankings. That is the primary sorting tool the committee uses.

 

[trj]

Was a little worried. Now, I don’t have to sweat out Miami of Ohio winning the MAC. Going into selection Sunday, 2-7 in your last 9 would have had me nervous.

 

[trj]

Before today's game, Iowa was closer to being a 7 seed than being out of the tournament altogether. Much closer. People, please just look up the NET rankings. That is the primary sorting tool the committee uses.

We get it. But you can see why some of us got nervous. Losing to Maryland would have meant they finished the year 2-7 in their last 9 games. Ohio St. has the better resume. A couple of bid stealers here and there, and you get worried.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

We get it. But you can see why some of us got nervous. Losing to Maryland would have meant they finished the year 2-7 in their last 9 games. Ohio St. has the better resume. A couple of bid stealers here and there, and you get worried.

The Committee looks at total body of work. How you finish is not relevant.

Bid stealers only come into play when you are on the bubble.

Our NET was 25 going into the game. A loss would have dropped it a bit, but you gotta be in the mid 30s to be in bubble territory. It was good for Iowa to get a strong performance win, but they have been solidly in the tournament pretty much since they beat Nebraska.

 

[trj]

The Committee looks at total body of work. How you finish is not relevant.

Bid stealers only come into play when you are on the bubble.

Our NET was 25 going into the game. A loss would have dropped it a bit, but you gotta be in the mid 30s to be in bubble territory. It was good for Iowa to get a strong performance win, but they have been solidly in the tournament pretty much since they beat Nebraska.

Fair

“The total body of work” discussion, that The Committee tries to sell you on, doesn’t always apply, and there are many examples of this. Also, how you finish is more relevant than you think.

It doesn’t matter, tho. Iowa is definitely in by beating Maryland, and that is the only thing I care about.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Fair

“The total body of work” discussion, that The Committee tries to sell you on, doesn’t always apply, and there are many examples of this. Also, how you finish is more relevant than you think.

It doesn’t matter, tho. Iowa is definitely in by beating Maryland, and that is the only thing I care about.

As I stated, they were already comfortably in before beating Maryland, but keep believing what you want.

Neither of us can intelligently speak to everything a committee member considers when voting on teams, nor what words are spoken behind closed doors, but the committee consistently uses the term "body of work." More importantly, the NET is their primary sorting tool and we are 25. The secondary tools we are 25 in Torvik, 32 in BPI, 24 in Ken Pom. There are 37 at large teams, so there is the math and all.

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

As I stated, they were already comfortably in before beating Maryland, but keep believing what you want.

Neither of us can intelligently speak to everything a committee member considers when voting on teams, nor what words are spoken behind closed doors, but the committee consistently uses the term "body of work." More importantly, the NET is their primary sorting tool and we are 25. The secondary tools we are 25 in Torvik, 32 in BPI, 24 in Ken Pom. There are 37 at large teams, so there is the math and all.

I'm not sure your analysis is completely accurate or up to date. There is a fair amount of literature out there suggesting that WAB is the single most important metric. This had Iowa at 39 overall and drifting in the 10 to 11 range, particularly with a loss to Maryland. A loss today and Selection Sunday was likely going to be a tad dicey.

 

[trj]

As I stated, they were already comfortably in before beating Maryland, but keep believing what you want.

Neither of us can intelligently speak to everything a committee member considers when voting on teams, nor what words are spoken behind closed doors, but the committee consistently uses the term "body of work." More importantly, the NET is their primary sorting tool and we are 25. The secondary tools we are 25 in Torvik, 32 in BPI, 24 in Ken Pom. There are 37 at large teams, so there is the math and all.

I have no counter. You win.

 

[InGoodCo]

They were in either way, but this erases any doubt. We’re all right

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

They were in either way, but this erases any doubt. We’re all right

Well, if you believe that WAB correlates most with seeding, then Iowa is essentially a 10 seed today. Had they lost? I don't know what they'd be...and also dependent on upsets/bid stealers around the country this week.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Indiana is in deep doo-doo. There will be enough mid major bid stealers to put them on the outside looking in with tonight's loss.

As for Iowa I have been amused at times, furious at times, that solid veteran posters on this site have called them a play in or even NIT team.

In what universe? Seriously, is this a coping mechanism for steeling yourself for what you might mot want to hear? Not one natonal bracketology has listed us among the last four in, first four out, or next four out since they started coming out in January. Bubble watches have had us safely off it for six weeks. And our metrics had us solidly in from jump. Some of them are even better than Wisconsin's.

WE ARE IN THE DANCE!!! DEAL WITH IT.

 

[trj]

Indiana is in deep doo-doo. There will be enough mid major bid stealers to put them on the outside looking in with tonight's loss.

As for Iowa I have been amused at times, furious at times, that solid veteran posters on this site have called them a play in or even NIT team.

In what universe? Seriously, is this a coping mechanism for steeling yourself for what you might mot want to hear? Not one natonal bracketology has listed us among the last four in, first four out, or next four out since they started coming out in January. Bubble watches have had us safely off it for six weeks. And our metrics had us solidly in from jump. Some of them are even better than Wisconsin's.

WE ARE IN THE DANCE!!! DEAL WITH IT.

2-6 in last the last 8 games make fans like me nervous. Lose to Maryland, and the OSU resume looks a whole lot better . You are sweating out Miami of Ohio winning the MAC. Don’t think it is as cut and dry as some of you are making it out to be.

 

[Grady]

A successful season for the Hawks, and it sure is nice to be a tourney team again after the previous 2 seasons. I think all Hawk fans can breathe a sigh of relief that McCollum is our new coach.

Yes, the Hawks were going to be in the Big Dance no matter the outcome of today's game, but it's also very possible a loss could have impacted Iowa's seeding. The NET is not always a great predictor of NCAA seeding -- if it was, Iowa's #25 NET would have them as a 7 seed -- and no one had them slotted for that before, or after, today's game.

If Iowa was a consensus 9 seed going into today, another Quad 3 loss and losing 7 of their last 9 may have slid them down into a 10 seed. Possibly. (I know the Selection Committee a few years ago removed the Last 10 Games as an official criteria, but S.C. members are human.)

In recent years the Committee has scheduled a number of 10-seed 'play-in' games, which I never understood. It's nice that today's W removes any possibility of that happening.

 

[Northside Hawk]

2-6 in last the last 8 games make fans like me nervous. Lose to Maryland, and the OSU resume looks a whole lot better . You are sweating out Miami of Ohio winning the MAC. Don’t think it is as cut and dry as some of you are making it out to be.

Modern metrics take the whole season into account. Quad 1 wins are banked.

Every metric has had us solidly in for two months. The "last ten game" criteria hasn't been used or heavily factored in for well over a decade despite some people's insistence to the contrary. Metrics even take into account who those six losses were against despite two of them being bad losses.

 

[BigD]

I agree that we should be in at this point, but how many teams have been left out in the past while other teams that shouldn't have been in were chosen?

Beat Ohio State later today and it will be celebration time!!! Even if we lose to OSU I like the others agree we will be in. Just not as good of seeding or location. Location can be huge if it's an area that a lot of Utah fans will be willing to attend. Large fan following can affect officiating. For the team I am hoping to get into the midwest region where a lot of Iowa fan's could attend and have an affect on the game, but selfishly I would love at UTAH location.

A little early on this thought............. but life after Stirtz???

Ironically in Ben's first season he has a real point guard that in my opinion surpasses any one that Fran recruiting or played at point guard. Can you imagine what some of our teams would have been like if Fran had a Stirtz playing the point? Not just offensively but defensively. Stirtz has been the cause of many turnovers with his quick hands that have caused so many steal's or deflections that resulted in turnovers on Iowa's behalf.

So who might be the next Catalyst either on team now, or a new recruit that has already committed?

 

[NorthKCHawk]

So who might be the next Catalyst either on team now, or a new recruit that has already committed?

Neither. Ben needs to find a starting guard with serious scoring ability in the portal or this team is going to regress next season. There are a lot of strong pieces returning, and I like the Thompson kid moving into the rotation, but a bunch of Robins without a Batman is not a recipe for success. Some interior size wouldn't hurt either.