Rogan's podcast rules, he has great guests.Watch the recent Joe Rogan podcast (you can just listen but he posts them to Youtube) with Bob Lazar as the guest. Then also watch the newer Netflix movie/documentary with Bob Lazar. Just listen with an open mind. I like Joe Rogan too. Much different now than the guy that was on that show where people had to eat worms or lie in a bed of snakes to advance to next round.