All-KF Team: QB

Who is the one QB from the KF-era you would choose to lead your team for a season?

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CP87

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There is probably a lot of agreement on this one, so I thought it would be interesting to look at a "blind" statistical resume comparison of the best season for the guys that would generally be considered among the best (4 clear front-runners), along with a few others that are statistically noteworthy.

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For most of these guys, there is one clear best season. For two of them, they have multiple seasons at a similarly high level.
 
This is a tough one.

BB was great but for only one season and with arguably the best OLine in Iowa history
Stanzi was great and put up a lot of wins, but loved to throw his pics
Drew Tate was great, perhaps the best playmaker of all of them.
Stanley is underrated IMHO. Second QB all time statistically
CJ Beathard great all around QB, played hurt most of his career

Banks 2002 season was amazing but it's tough to make him a clear #1 with only 1 starting slate. Tough call.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
This is a tough one.

BB was great but for only one season and with arguably the best OLine in Iowa history
Stanzi was great and put up a lot of wins, but loved to throw his pics
Drew Tate was great, perhaps the best playmaker of all of them.
Stanley is underrated IMHO. Second QB all time statistically
CJ Beathard great all around QB, played hurt most of his career

Banks 2002 season was amazing but it's tough to make him a clear #1 with only 1 starting slate. Tough call.
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I lean towards peak, more so than body of work.

As you said, so hard to compare across guys who may have had different coordinators, different weapons around them, different OLs, and different Ds and STs (both Stanzi and Beathard dealt with beat-up defenses in their best years that limited team success, which gets reflected back on them; Stanzi also lost his best RB and both OGs during that 2010 season).

But I also prioritize explosiveness and the ability to create points, and while he had a lot of things working in his favor, no QB was more explosive or contributed to more TDs than Banks. He would be my pick.

I agree than Stanley is underrated...he had 3 seasons that were very similar to his best. Tate also had multiple very high-level season.
 
Without looking at the numbers my pick would be Beathard. He probably doesn't have the highest completion percentage but he made his throws count. And he wasn't the fastest QB but he could run. Just an all-around winner. And my guess is, he has the highest win percentage, maybe behind Banks. But Banks was only one year.
 
A healthy Beatherd gets my vote. He could make all the throws, didn’t make mistakes, could run when needed and was smart.
I guess the real question on this vote is what OC is calling the plays? I would be very intrigued to see how Lester would use a guy like Banks
 
So there's talent and athletic ability...and there's leadership.

I think Beathard and Stanzi were great leaders who rallied their teammates. Not that the other guys weren't, but I think they had an "it" factor there.
 
Drew tate was a playmaker as was Beathard and Banks. You could count on them to make big plays in bit situations.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
So there's talent and athletic ability...and there's leadership.

I think Beathard and Stanzi were great leaders who rallied their teammates. Not that the other guys weren't, but I think they had an "it" factor there.
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If MG had a couple more years I think he'd be in this discussion with Bethard/Tate/Stanzi.

I hope Hecklinski is too. But you know what they say about "You can wish in one hand..."
 
When I came on this thread, based upon the title, I was prepared for violence. I know I have an opinion that is not shared by many, but Drew Tate is the best QB in the KF era. Period. Most accurate passer? For sure. Great playmaker? Yep. Leader of men? Damn right. Fiery competitor? In spades. Winner? Google him.

His only two knocks were size/injury. I get it. If Drew were 3 inches taller, he is a first round draft pick in the NFL. He played through some injuries at Iowa.

His other knock was he was maybe a bit too high strung and maybe a bit too much QB IQ for his old school coaches. There were a lot of undercurrents his senior year with his frustration on the predictability of the KOK offense. He wasn't wrong about that.

I am praying to the football Gods that Hecklinski is a reasonable facsimile of Tate.
 
Other candidates.

Banks: Was amazing, but was 1-year lightening in a bottle. Relatively soft schedule. Played behind an OL that was chiseled from the granite of Mount OL Greatness. Best TE in school history. Great RB. Very good defense. Maybe if he had another season to repeat.

MG: Same issue as Banks, just with less wins. That said, if he came to Iowa healthy and went through a full Spring and Fall camp, we make the playoffs.

Stanzi/Beatherd: Same guy to me. Clutch. It Factor. Winners. Both hampered senior year by injury. Beatherd is probably second on my list of who I would want back.

Stanley to me is the baseline. Not flashy. Utilitarian. Workmanlike. He is the standard. Every QB has to be at least as good as Stanley to be acceptable. If you told me at the beginning of a season that the QB could be as good as Stanley, I would always take that. High floor. Relatively low ceiling.
 
Banks-Dude was the best we've had point blank. Yeah one yr wonder but dude was the best player in football that yr pretty much. Was accurate didn't turn the ball over was the most mobile. The ENTIRE playbook was open with him.

Tate-Balls of steel. He was really smart. Wasn't given as much credit for that due to some of his gunslinger tendencies.

CJ-Wish he woulda been 100% more. Tough leader could make most of the throws would do whatever it took.

Stanzi- Leader with a short memory. Could throw 5 picks and it wouldn't change him at all.

Stanley-Tough and underrated. Strong arm. Had his ups and downs but certainly glad he was a Hawk he provided us some huge games and memories. (OSU game for one)
 
What was the old complaint about Stanley? All he did was throw Touchdown passes. I think he is still 2nd all time TDs thrown at Iowa.
 
guffus said:
What was the old complaint about Stanley? All he did was throw Touchdown passes. I think he is still 2nd all time TDs thrown at Iowa.
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Stanley could have been legendary at Iowa if he would have completed about 5 crucial passes over his years. Wisconsin and PSU games come too mind. The missed pass to Hockenson at PSU was a bad one
 
NorthKCHawk said:
When I came on this thread, based upon the title, I was prepared for violence. I know I have an opinion that is not shared by many, but Drew Tate is the best QB in the KF era. Period. Most accurate passer? For sure. Great playmaker? Yep. Leader of men? Damn right. Fiery competitor? In spades. Winner? Google him.

His only two knocks were size/injury. I get it. If Drew were 3 inches taller, he is a first round draft pick in the NFL. He played through some injuries at Iowa.

His other knock was he was maybe a bit too high strung and maybe a bit too much QB IQ for his old school coaches. There were a lot of undercurrents his senior year with his frustration on the predictability of the KOK offense. He wasn't wrong about that.

I am praying to the football Gods that Hecklinski is a reasonable facsimile of Tate.
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I still go with a healthy CJB. Go to back to the 2015 B1G championship game, and the two throws to Tevaun Smith, the one he caught for a touchdown, and the one he lost in the lights. Other than maybe Stanley, KF has never had a QB that had the arm strength to make those type of throws. And CJB was playing at 70% in that game.

It is a no brainer to me.
 
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