After the hysteria passes - take a deep breath

Those Tom Davis and Ferentz analogies always slay me. If you're an Iowa fan who wishes for more than mediocrity after a paltry number of excellent years, the article says you'd better not become 'irrational' with desires for winning for fear of a 19 season losing streak returning. I say noshing ventured noshing gained.

I'd put money on the over for 2-10, as well. I see more mediocrity. Mediocrity in the B1G will get you far this year. Maybe even a New Year's Day bowl game.
 
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Lets be honest...

the 2003 and 2004 offenses were not very good...they were incredibly one dimensional; they just so happened to be backed by dominant defenses and special teams play. The 2009 offense, as clutch as it was, was far worse than the defense...that is, the D still carried the team. 2002 is the only year that the offense carried the team. So even during the successful years, the offensive issues were masked by great defenses.

This isn't about 1 game. It's about 2.25 years ineptitude at offense after 13 years of...well, mediocrity being the norm. That's going to lead to a lot of pent up frustration.

Not many people are asking for Ferentz to leave...they do ask that he changes with the times.
 
As recently as a couple years ago, I would have said "preach on brother!"... This year...it just feels tired. The poo factor you are seeing on the field this year so far outstrips the (IMO valid) argument of " this ain't OSU, you can't expect bcs every year" its not even funny.
 
Note to Rick Brown: After 10 years of mostly the same garbage recruiting, coaching and W/L record......it's not "hysteria". If you think it is, I suggest you find a line of work that requires less attention to reality. Like sweeping parking lots, or stocking shelves at Wal-Mart.
.......nothing like the tired old "take a deep breath" article. It's about as fresh as one of Kirk Ferentz's press conferences.
 
This is all I needed to read to know this article was garbage.
Some fans expect those levels of success every year. And while dreaming big is totallyunderstandable, it's not reality. I know a lot of you don't agree with this concept: But Iowa never has been, never will be, Alabama, Ohio State or Notre Dame. It will never be a school that selectively recruits. It will always be a school that recruits potential and works hard to develop it.
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Iowa State is one of the worst programs in all of college football. Paul Rhoads is a complete failure, but...he's just made Ferentz his *****. I'm not mad that Ferentz doesn't have a top 5 program, I'm mad that this team wasn't better than UNI, Ball State or Iowa State.

ps-I just saw that this Rick Brown guy works for the Register. I wouldn't have wasted my time and read it if I had saw that. Only a no talent pile of garbage who nobody else would hire would actually work for the Des Moines Register.
 
gohawkz said:
This is all I needed to read to know this article was garbage.

Iowa State is one of the worst programs in all of college football. Paul Rhoads is a complete failure, but...he's just made Ferentz his *****. I'm not mad that Ferentz doesn't have a top 5 program, I'm mad that this team wasn't better than UNI, Ball State or Iowa State.

ps-I just saw that this Rick Brown guy works for the Register. I wouldn't have wasted my time and read it if I had saw that. Only a no talent pile of garbage who nobody else would hire would actually work for the Des Moines Register.
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Jon on his latest podcast was saying that Rick Brown is. rarely. critical in his articles, and his latest article was critical of Ferentz.
 
Framing an argument in such a way as to suggest you either compete with Alabama or lose to Isu is such god awful stupidity that it's just unacceptable.

Beat the teams you recruit better than, which lately has been %80 of the schedule, on a regular basis, it's that damn simple.
 
biasedHAWKEYE said:
Lets be honest...

the 2003 and 2004 offenses were not very good...they were incredibly one dimensional; they just so happened to be backed by dominant defenses and special teams play. The 2009 offense, as clutch as it was, was far worse than the defense...that is, the D still carried the team. 2002 is the only year that the offense carried the team. So even during the successful years, the offensive issues were masked by great defenses.

This isn't about 1 game. It's about 2.25 years ineptitude at offense after 13 years of...well, mediocrity being the norm. That's going to lead to a lot of pent up frustration.

Not many people are asking for Ferentz to leave...they do ask that he changes with the times.
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Funny you pick 2003 and 2004, two seasons that saw depth at skill positions incredibly "dented". 2003 we lost WRs (remember moving freshman QB Eric McCollom to WR for a bit?) and 2004 saw several games with Sam Brownlee as our starting--and pretty much only--RB.
 
I'm getting to think that I can just go do something else this Saturday (while in Iowa) and just check the score from time to time.... Knowing that watching is just so painful, I'll enjoy doing something else.
 
This time its different. There is nothing that leads me to believe positive change is coming for the offense. Its not power football, its not finesse passing...

We've lost identity. Never before has that been the case. That is why this time it's different, and that's why I've lost faith.

Until I see my Hawkeyes, I'll still watch, follow, and cheer, but my belief and confidence...much like our offense...is gone.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Funny you pick 2003 and 2004, two seasons that saw depth at skill positions incredibly "dented". 2003 we lost WRs (remember moving freshman QB Eric McCollom to WR for a bit?) and 2004 saw several games with Sam Brownlee as our starting--and pretty much only--RB.
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I focused on Ferentz's best seasons to show that even then, the offense wasn't the key factor...it was the defense that carried the team to 10+ wins. 2002 is the only exception.
 
SSorry about that, still trying to figure this out from my phone.Lots of talk about coaching or lack thereof. Something to consider.We have a defensive scheme that attempts to keep everything in front of us, presumably relying on the percentages that the opposing offense will make a mistake or incur a penalty that stalls their drive and ends their possession.Why on earth do we have an offensive scheme that is ball control, relies on near perfect execution to succeed, and is extremly vulnerable to a mistake or penalty that stalls our possession?We are playing an offensive scheme that plays right into the scheme we want our opposing offenses to play against our defense.Does anyone else find this to be ironic and perhaps a colossal lapse in coaching?
 
biasedHAWKEYE said:
I focused on Ferentz's best seasons to show that even then, the offense wasn't the key factor...it was the defense that carried the team to 10+ wins. 2002 is the only exception.
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Wow. Do you suppose Ferentz and his let's play not to lose philosophy has something to do with that?

I mean, even so this year, when it's obvious (to me) the best QB running Davis' offense is sitting on the bench. I guess Davis is such a dummy he doesn't realize, huh?
 
I despise all the topics telling those of us with our eyes open to calm down. We are calm, are just ****ed about the team we love being driven into the ground.
 
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