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I guess we will have to agree to disagree and I can do it without being a d I ck or pulling the Internet tough guy card. I see a similarity in the fact that in both cases the fans are quick to side with the player because the coach is smart enough not to comment on anything that a player says...

Which is why I said "in no way is cjb a djk like figure" ...

Excellent question...one which I have wondered about. I guess my point goes with this question though too...everyone on a message board assumes they know exactly what is going on and knows how every conversation goes and fills in the holes with speculation. Coaches play and support guys they can...

Perhaps because he's publicly challenged you a couple of times in the media? I have coached at both the high school and college level and I can guarantee you, publicly calling out the coach is not the way to get more playing time.

Perhaps they can frame a picture of it and hang it in their basketball facility...maybe next to the one I saw there of their monumental 1999 football win. At the end of the day he still plays for iowa state and the fact that he feels like he has to yell cyclone state over and over tells you...

Color me shocked that a Fred Hoiburg bunch would act like morons!

The guy didn't say they were on a completely different level as iowa. I know it seems odd for him to do this but he was talking about all the other teams

Anybody catch the sec drivel right after the alabama game on cbs? The post game schmucks were asked where they would put Alabama and one immediately said number 1...which isn't out of the question...but then the guy went on to say that they were just on a "completely different level than...

You don't get more playing time by publicly saying the opposite of what the head coach says. Not saying he's not the better QB but the second he spoke out about willies' situation anyone who has watched KF knew he was not playing

Expectation was to not have a loss to one of the worst teams in Division 1 football (not just power conferences) in ISU. Brutal loss considering how much of a dumpster fire their D is. We played right into their hands with our offensive game plan that game.

I don't have a fancy word, but I'm going to go with h o r s e Sh it.

Why are we not running this motion on about 1/2 our plays? It puts so much pressure on the defense and we can still run our base plays. The cutback lane that it creates is perfect for canzeri. I know the answer to my question though...because KF does not want the offense to like that. He is not...

Wasn't really doing much when he did get it...did he?

The good captain just said it was not in our best interest to play cjb today. Go ahead and discuss.

I would hope that it will start with a giant dose of Weisman. Anything else would be asinine after the way we physically kicked their butts last year. They knew it was coming and still couldn't stop it even with 9 guys in the box. Clone fans can beat their chest all they want about how that game...

All types of crap in this thread. One guy saying we didn't see any read option with CJ...when there were at least two runs where it was the read option look and he gave to the back. Just because he didn't keep does not mean that it wasn't read option. And his second pass was a read option fake...

Great...and welcome. Now can we hire someone to get rid of the cyclone trolls that have infested these forums. I'm available....and it will be a Stalin like bloodbath...I'm looking at you hawkzilla.

Like I said...your post history is available for everyone to see. You have defended iowa st and bit ched about iowa or given iowa backhanded compliments in every one of your posts. Eat a dic k you troll. I'm sure Paul would be pwoud.

Go suck mr.dreamys coc k you cyclone troll. You do realize everyone here can look at your post history...especially during basketball season. Maybe you can get pwoud Paul to cheer you on while you suck it....troll

Feel bad for the players... But it couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of as shats as far as their fans are concerned